Let's unpack everything we can. He was adopted by Mary Lou Barebone, the leader of a No-Maj anti-witchcraft group called the New Salem Philanthropic Society. Simply because I believe he must be alive somewhere, and why not Abernathy who is about the same age, lived in America and we know surprisingly little about his background, we don’t even know his full name. She's known to do that. I saw your theory, but the possibility of Abernathy being Corvus is something I thought about too. We don't have much information about her but we know she never married and had a fiancee who she broke up with eventually. Also he is the only known Obscurial known to past the age 10 which shows that he is very powerful and could be linked to a powerful wizard family. Credence was supposed to be 18, or less. If Dumbledore had a son, there would be at least one person on the planet that would know about it. But how could she not realize that the baby she brought to America wasn’t Corvus? Grindelwald had visions about him (so Credence has to be someone important, one way or another). In general, in the case he reveals to be Corvus V, my feeling is that Abernathy doesn't know it yet. IMDb is not a great source when it comes to credits. I believe that proves why Grindelwald and no one else was able to discover the truth. I mean: I can see him sending Vinda who seems to be his deputy for such s crucial mission. Maybe Rowling decided to make him a Dumbledore post-factum. Grindelwald could’ve received a proof he is one (Abernathy being able to access their vault). You are putting 10 times more thought into it then the writers. This seems to fill Credence, er Aurelius, with new purpose, because he … 3 will be no different. Credence was 18 years old in the first movie set in 1926, so he was born around 1908, and Dumbledore is 45 years old in The Crimes of Grindelwald, set in 1927. So that was one part of Dumbledore’s family history that Skeeter had no means of recovering. You'll see. (4) I believe all those contradictions are due to the changes they made to the story sometimes during production of FB1. Fantastic Beasts 3, the upcoming film set in J. K. Rowling’s wizarding world will begin production in Spring 2020, according to WizardingWorld.com, Yet now he seeks the mother who bore him. 1883/1884) was a half-blood wizard, the second son of Percival and Kendra Dumbledore, younger brother of Albus, and older brother of Ariana. So, either they are related, but not actually brothers, or Grindelwald is lying, and they aren’t actually related at all. Initially WB wanted a documentary-style film about Newt and his beasts, but Rowling went and created a whole new story and a bunch of new characters. I assume Grindelwald truly believes Credence to be Aurelius. I always felt brother was off, but family member still felt right. But why didn't she tell Credence then? 5)The reason we never knew Albus had a cousin is because after the ship sank Honoria died and they though the baby also died with her. In the end it's just as easy as 'Credence is really person (insert random name)' and that's it. All we know for certain is that he can’t really be Albus’ brother like Grindelwald says for several reasons. Harry Potter's world has gotten so, so complicated. If he got news it's during the last part of his imprisonment. Of course, the bigger mystery is how Aurelius/Credence was born. (1) I suppose that’s true. He’s desperate for love.” Yes, I know what you mean. Or she knew the whole truth. (5) Susan Sipal is a great theorist. Some other wizards reached the same conclusion: that Credence was Corvus. Aberforth Dumbledore (b. Creedance is being manipulated into fighting Albus. Annia Cornificia Faustina Minor was the daughter of the Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius and his wife, Faustina the Younger.She was sister to Lucilla and Commodus.. I go for the third option. (3) I suppose no one knew about Aurelius, not even Doge or Bathilda. Here I will look at how he (and only he) could’ve discovered this. Credence attempted to stop an… As to him growing rapidly etc. Read the Reddit post for more. Just tell me my story… then you can end it.” “Credence Barebone. In my opinion, Credence is a Dumbledore. But in reality Leta saved Aurelius from the ship. The film soundtrack even plays a song called ‘Restoring Your Name’ whilst Grindelwald conducts the Dumbledore-reveal. Curator of the /r/RowlingWritings reddit collection, and the lead of the old jkrowling.com preservation project, as well as an active member of The Harry Potter Lexicon, Science Fiction Stack Exchange, and various reddit communities. He attended Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry between 1895 and 1902. The only information we know is she had a fiancee but they broke up. Wir wollten 2018 wissen, welche Fragen zu "Harry Potter" am meisten gesucht wurden. Perhaps that’s because the Dumbledore name was lost decades/centuries ago by marriage– and now it’s finally being restored! that’s just a goof of the special effects department. Whether Credence really is Aurelius or not, Albus Dumbledore must know something about his past and real identity. Think about Neville who fell out of a window and bounced in the garden like a ball. But only Grindelwald somehow realized that the babies had been switched. He apparently isn’t a random orphan: he’s Aurelius Dumbledore, the lost scion of the Dumbledore family and alleged brother to Albus and his siblings, Aberforth and Ariana. Are there any you've come up with yourself? Next to him, Hagrid was being briefed by Professors Dumbledore and Flickwick. If that's the case Jo has to deal with all the fanbase rage. (2) I don't think that the pheonix proved that Credence is a Dumbledore. We where expecting clever plot twist but we got plot twist that made no sense and random noncence. Nearly destroyed by the woman who raided him. According to the press release, actress Fiona Glascott has been cast as no other than Minerva … TL;DR: Basically Aurelius might be the son of Honoria, Albus Dumbledore's aunt on the father side, which makes him the cousin of Albus Dumbledore. How did Grindelwald find out about Aurelius Dumbledore? He’s desperate for family. This theory claims that in that so called “summer” that Grindelwald spent with the Dumbledores, the dark wizard raped the youngest Dumbledore sibling and the product of that crime Aurelius was born. She was once engaged to a wizard who worked in the Improper Use of Magic Office, but broke off her engagement to him, claiming that he had a "hairy heart" (a wizardingexpression for a person who is unfeeling). Possible. A subreddit to discuss the new installments in the Wizarding World, the Fantastic Beasts series! I don’t think Grindelwald made up a whole new person. What I really liked about FB1 was that it was a new story set in the wizarding world. Before DH it was widely believed to be around 1840. Cookies help us deliver our Services. She is the women in the ship with the baby Credence/Aurelius. We don't know if she is the sister of Percival(Albus' father) or Kendra(Albus' mother). Theories are nice but it the movie it will be dissapointing. Der junge Zauberer Credence Barebone soll in Wahrheit Aurelius Dumbledore der Bruder der Dumbledore Geschwister sein. Or I might be wrong and she is not Honoria at all. (5) If Credence=Aurelius Dumbledore is true, which I do not think so, I'm 100% with this theory and with what (hats off) Susan Sipal is theorising. I don't know if it was mentioned somewhere in your post, but I would add something to your theory that Corvus V is still alive: The script states in scene 109 that there were magical light bubbles trailing from the sinking baby. We need theories to try and uncover Rowling's original story. i’m tired of living without no name, without no history. (That’s why it’s Aurelius Dumbledore, rather than Aurelius <>). By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I think it was Grindelwald himself who transfigured him, too. There are several possibilities: he found someone who knew it. It was more of a background. I think she might be Honoria. Credence Barebone was born around 1901, allegedly to the Dumbledore family, as Aurelius Dumbledore, according to Gellert Grindelwald.In 1901, Credence was taken by his aunt on a ship heading to America. Dumbledore was born in 1881, meaning he is about 46 years old when the events of Crimes of Grindelwald take place.When we meet Credence in Fantastic Beasts and Where to … She’s notoriously bad at math, remember? Today Warner Bros. released the full cast list for Fantastic Beasts: “The Crimes of Grindelwald and someone truly important to the Harry Potter world came up among these names.. Curator of the /r/RowlingWritings reddit collection, and the lead of the old jkrowling.com preservation project, as well as an active member of The Harry Potter Lexicon, Science Fiction Stack Exchange, and various reddit communities. Imo, the main plot of FB2 was good, but badly executed. She is the women in the ship with the baby Credence/Aurelius. The ship later sank during a storm and Credence was taken by Leta and Irma Dugard to a lifeboat. Grindelwald discovered Credence's true identity through his visions and 3 months of research. TL;DR: Basically Aurelius might be the son of Honoria, Albus Dumbledore's aunt on the father side, which makes him the cousin of Albus Dumbledore. It's almost a sure sign that something's going on. My personal favorite theory is that he is a Homunculus (theory of S.Sipal on youtube) But I believe Rowling will go for the simplest and most natural explanation. Today Warner Bros. released the full cast list for Fantastic Beasts: “The Crimes of Grindelwald and someone truly important to the Harry Potter world came up among these names.. Hell, she could have been married and have him, and the prophecy wouldn't be wrong as he still has Dumbledore blood, just not the surname. 4)I think Honoria had a son with his fiancee without marriage and because they have never married, she kept the surname Dumbledore for his son Aurelius. I don't know if she can drop it now, she has to explain that Aurelius revelation somehow. She raised him alone and thats why we don't see a father figure in the sinking ship scene in the Crimes of Grindelwald. Rest it dropped. KATHERINE WATERSTON as Marguerite Westinghouse in The Current War (2017) dir. In dem heutigen Fantastic Beasts 2 Video präsentiere ich euch eine Theorie von mir, die sich mit Aurelius Dumbledore wahre Identität beschäftigt. Why Grindelwald was willing to risk her telling him, if, as it seems the case in the first draft, he didn't order Grimmson to kill her? While most … I’m very happy to have discovered her channel, I wish more people knew about it. And in a list of insane ideas, it definitely deserves the top spot. I’d bet money that he’s not a Dumbledore at all. Aurelius Dumbledore is a totally new name that we’ve never heard before, and certainly Dumbledore had never mentioned a dead brother. While I liked everything about the niffler in the first film, here it seems a really pointless addition (good thing they cut the most if it). Yet now he seeks the mother who bore him. Alfonso Gomez-Rejon Honoria was a Britishwitch and the spinster aunt of Albus Dumbledore. Grindelwald’s entire character arch has been as a duplicitous liar/manipulater. I'm also interested in the exact wording of the Unbreakable Vow and who the third person was who made the vow between Yusuf and his father. Could be. That is weird and I think the reason for that is for the surname "Dumbledore". Even if you don't agree (it does seem just a teensy bit out of character for Dumbledore), you have to admit that this is a pretty insane idea. Unlike Albus, Aberforth preferred to solve his differences by duelling, rather than dialogue. Even if Corvus is dead, there could still be another person to fit that definition. 2)Albus Dumbledore has an aunt named Honoria. Or creating more CGI shit like getting a 'magic starfish' out someone else his eye. I think she might be Honoria. Cookies help us deliver our Services. And she didn’t care about his aunt. That leaves Credence as possibly a Dumbledore. Really, Corvus must be alive because Bellatrix married a Lestrange. We first know about her in one of Dumbledore's notes inside the The Tales of Beedle the Bard book. That means there really were some records that connected Barebones to the Lestranges (like names of the passengers on the ship, adoption papers). Nearly destroyed by the woman who raided him. So Grindelwald wasn't lying about that for sure. fantastic beasts the crimes of grindelwald SpoilerAlert credence barebone aurelius dumbledore jk rowling. But only Grindelwald knew that Credence isn't Corvus. He was one step ahead of the purebloods who researched Lestranges but didn't realize that Credence wasn't one. Or they (always JKR and her staff of dozens of people of international excellence) would've started the whole story some years before 1926, since large time jumps (in order to show 1945) where already planned. i’m tired of living without no name, without no history. She has many alternative theories on FB that sometimes give different explanations, so all of them can’t be true, but I admire her thoughtful approach, how much she knows about history and mythology and her ability to link it to FB. It is fan service, you're right. Of course, he'd still need proof. Honoria was a Britishwitch and the spinster aunt of Albus Dumbledore. He deduced that Credence is Aurelius Dumbledore, a boy that was also on that ship but is now believed to be dead. I'm still not sure how to interpret the predictions of Tycho Dodonus, but this fits with the part about "return, great avenger with wings from the water". Dumbledore’s Parents. It's a big thing that couldn't be hidden in the (let's say) HP period, but neither in the FB period. Yes, Credence Barebone is actually Aurelius Dumbledore, and we’ve got some theories to make sense of it. he met the real Corvus, who is Abernathy. Credence was 18 years old in the first movie set in 1926, so he was born around 1908, and Dumbledore is 45 years old in The Crimes of Grindelwald, set in 1927. To be a Dumbledore, Credence and Albus would at the very least have to share a father in Percival Dumbledore (if not both parents). November 12, 2018 Aurelius Dumbledore is the lost brother of Albus Dumbledore, revealed by Gellert Grindelwald to Credence Barebone at the end of “Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald”. “So, what did they get you in for?” ... Credence/Aurelius Dumbledore, Queenie Goldstein, Jacob Kowalski, Tina Goldstein, … Demi Michelle Schwartz is a writer for The Rowling Library Magazine and the Hufflepuff host on Lumos Maxima. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the FantasticBeasts community. But why Grindy decided to choose Abernathy for supporting Vinda, instead of, for example, an acolyte who could speak French? It was only for his ability in Transfiguration? He gives him a wand, tells him that his brother wants to hurt him and gives him the name "Aurelius Dumbledore." 7)Also IMDB lists Linda Santiago as Credence's aunt. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the FanTheories community. But I believe Rowling will find a way to explain this. Or, at least, there is/was a Dumbledore named Aurelius. In any case, do we know what happens when it’s impossible to fulfill an unbreakable vow? Google Trends analysiert jedes Jahr die Suchbegriffe in Deutschland. She was once engaged to a wizard who worked in the Improper Use of Magic Office, but broke off her engagement to him, claiming that he had a "hairy heart" (a wizardingexpression for a person who is unfeeling). Such as showing characters who should not be alive yet. When his magic saved him from drowning. So who is he? Dieses Geheimnis offenbart Gellert Grindelwald Credence auf dem Schloss Nurmengard, nachdem sich Barebone dem Schwarzmagier … Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. He was one step ahead of Dumbledore, who knew both families (I believe he started to research the Lestranges very recently, around the time the rumors about Credence's lineage started) but didn't know Abernathy or had any other reason to think that the babies were switched and Credence wasn't a Lestrange. That’s why I believe that it’s a real phoenix and not some trick of Grindelwald’s. (until that guitar comes in– then it’s Albus at Gellert, all the way). I think of a theory where the three dumbledore brothers are the same of the deathly hallows tales of three brothers where the albus gets the most powerful wand but Harry's father don't quite fit in this. WB is pushing it, not JKR. Dumbledore… Doch jetzt tauchte ein Video auf, das ihn beim Liebesspiel mit Micaela Schäfer zeigt. I theorised (not sure if on Reddit or somewhere else) that Corvus V may be Abernathy because we know few things about him apart from the fact that he's probably (of whom he's acolyte?) And he had it. Facebook Twitter Flipboard Reddit Pinterest WhatsApp. Also, if Corvus survived from drowning, the interpretation of the prediction of Tycho Dodonus would be far less convoluted. Yes, this! In fact, when … In the final moments of the new film, Grindelwald reveals a crucial secret to Credence: Credence is the long-lost younger brother of Albus Dumbledore himself — and his real name is Aurelius. Also, it's strange that Grindy sent Abernathy. Also, there is no mention of Dumbledore having a relationship with anyone. This theory claims that in that so called “summer” that Grindelwald spent with the Dumbledores, the dark wizard raped the youngest Dumbledore sibling and the product of that crime Aurelius was born. Maybe he will learn that it was the same ship his aunt was on in the next movie, and start to have his suspicions. Regarding the French Ministry, I had the feeling that NewTina's difficulties in approaching the zone of Lestranges' Record were disproportionate to the (seeming) ease Vinda Rosier+Abernathy encountered. Yes, Credence Barebone is actually Aurelius Dumbledore, and we’ve got some theories to make sense of it. Aurelius Dumbledore.” With that, Credence turned to the nearest window and, using his new wand, channeled the power of his Obscurus to shatter the glass and bring down half a mountain. Due to the repression of his magic, Credence developed a dark parasitic force known as an Obscurus and became an Obscurial. Reddit; Mail; Embed; Permalink ; Bohemian Rhapsody. Dumbledore states that she was a spinster.Spinster is a term referring to an unmarried woman who is older than what is perceived as the prime age range during which women should marry. Just tell me my story… then you can end it.” “Credence Barebone. When Grindelwald poses as Graves he definitely didn’t think Creedance was a Dumbledore. Why bother at all really. Credence cannot be the son of Albus Dumbledore. So that’s what convinced him that Credence is a Dumbledore everyone (if they knew of him at all) thought dead. I take this (long) post as the opportunity to congratulate to Susan Sipal who (IMHO) is a great searcher, a never-banal commenter and stands out when she cleverly analyses the Wizarding World with all its facets and its connections to mythology, literature and history. I can completely see Credence/Aurelius singing Bohemian Rhapsody. TL;DR: Basically Aurelius might be the son of Honoria, Albus Dumbledore's aunt on the father side, which makes him the cousin of Albus Dumbledore. What's the craziest theory about Aurelius Dumbledore that you've heard? If they planned to make another Dumbledore pop up, then they would've, for example, made the ship sink 2 to 5 years before. In dem heutigen Fantastic Beasts 2 Video präsentiere ich euch eine Theorie von mir, die sich mit Aurelius Dumbledore wahre Identität beschäftigt. Notice the Pheonix chick only comes into Creedance’s possession immediately before meeting Grindelwald on the Paris rooftop and at the end of the film the chick only turns into a Pheonix when handled by Grindelwald, who is both gifted in transfiguration and shares a blood bond with Albus Dumbledore. Of rebirth, finding your inner strength, being an extraordinary person… You’re right, it’s a sort of initiation. This is a place for fans of various creative works to share theories, interpretations and speculation related to that particular creative work. 3,569 notes. (2) A phoenix is a powerful symbol. Either way, what matters is that there were many possibilities for Grindelwald (and anyone with access to (more or less) public records) to discover that it was Irma who gave Credence Barebone for adoption, that she was on that ship, and find the names of all the other passengers. They are currently busy inserting more unnessasary and random HP callbacks. Grimmson also, however, secretly received instructions from Gellert Grindelwald to kill Irma Dugard, to deprive Credence of the answers he was seeking and to push him into Grindelwald's arms. And it fits that only a Lestrange can access their archive: why else would he send Abernathy who not only doesn’t speak french, but can’t speak at all? And I had the vibe that, in order, to "call" the record in the way Leta did, you need some blood connection. According to the press release, actress Fiona Glascott has been cast as no other than Minerva … Kama made a vow to kill the person Lestrange sr. loves best. He could’ve been researching old archive records on Mary Lou, and found out about Irma and that she was on the same ship with two Dumbledores (aunt and a baby). Phoenix is proof that he is related to Dumbledore. Press J to jump to the feed. Having finally been swayed to the side … Der 2te Teil von Fantastic Beasts ist nun endlich in den Kinos angelaufen und das nehme ich zum Anlass mein erstes Video dazu online zu stellen. 6)Near the end of the second movie, after Grindelwald gave a wand to Credence/Aurelius he cast a spell that exploded a mountain. Who is Aurelius Dumbledore? Exactly, everyone's going for the brother, yet the prophecy never said the Dumbledore had to be a sibling/parent of Albus, they just needed to be a Dumbledore by blood. Also, getting out of the story, I think that the actors who play Abernathy and Corvus IV really resemble one another. He was in Albus's shadow, as his brother was an extraordinarily talented and academic Wizard and even despite his great duelling talent, he was still incomparable to Albus in the field he specialised in. He had all the necessary pieces of a puzzle. Bei „Bachelor in Paradise“ war Aurelio sofort verzaubert von Sam. This point is important because the pheonix is, for now, the only (apparent) evidence of Credence=Aurelius Dumbledore. Press J to jump to the feed. Or, at least, there is/was a Dumbledore named Aurelius. At the end of Fantastic Beasts, Grindelwald gives Credence something that he’s never used before: a wand. Demi Schwartz. It turns out Aurelius Dumbledore is the long lost brother of Albus Dumbledore as revealed by Grindelwald to Credence Barebone at the end of … 41 notes Jan 23rd, 2019. Aberforth attended Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry between 1895 and 1902. Why else would she change his age? They chose 1926 for aesthetic reasons, they made a set and decorations and it was just too late to change time period when they decided to shift the focus to Dumbledore and Grindelwald. And of course, because of the things written just above. He probably did his research on Dumbledores years ago, but thought that those two died when the ship sank. pure blood. 3)Honoria being a spinster is such a weird information to give to your readers. When Commodus succeeded her father as emperor and, sometime between 190 and 192, he ordered the deaths of Cornificia’s husband, her son, her brother-in-law and her sister-in-law’s family. Does it refer to the raven on his family crest? Gellert Grindelwald's acolytes were a devoted group of followers comprising the inner-circle members of the army gathered by the Dark Wizard Gellert Grindelwald.1 1 History 2 Known members 3 Appearances 4 Notes and references In 1927, they accompanied Grindelwald to Paris to assist with his plans in recruiting Credence Barebone. Furthermore, the name Grindelwald gives Credence is Aurelius Dumbledore. 7)Also IMDB lists Linda Santiago as Credence's aunt. Welcome to /r/FanTheories! Even if she has to tweak some canon timelines. Meh. I think that Corvus V Lestrange must be, in some way, still alive, because of the Unbreakable Vow that hasn't killed Yusuf Kama yet. It wouldn’t be the first time she changes Dumbledore’s birth year. (I think it happened sometimes before FB1 came out, and that’s why they decided to make 5 films). FB2 has too many references to HP that feel forced (DADA classroom, McGonagall, Hedwig's theme) as well as to FB1. He was switched in the crib by a young Leta Lestrange for her half-brother Corvus because he was crying. But giving your audience another Dumbledore character and than saying it's fake later will be frustrating to all the fans. Rubbing his hands together, he turned to address the other detentionee. I think that, if Credence reveals to be a Dumbledore, then we'll see that Grindy needed that sort of baptism in order to successfully recruit the boy, that was in his most desperate moment. Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald leaves me questioning so much. Grindelwald made this up, It is true but it concerns unknown and not yet introduced Dumbledore family members, it concerns existing members in an unexpected way. Could this be a hint to the auto-protection some magical children have? Aurelius Dumbledore.” With that, Credence turned to the nearest window and, using his new wand, channeled the power of his Obscurus to shatter the glass and bring down half a mountain. It might be a mislead. Fantastic Beasts aesthetic : Credence / Aurelius Dumbledore “Who i am ? Maybe she only knew he wasn't Corvus. (3) First of all, if there was another Dumbledore, it remains unlikely that everyone in the magical community knew that 2 Dumbledores died/were in that ship. I mean, a lot was cut out, and by trying to make JKR's story more simple and straightforward the filmmakers made it less coherent. I think that I can pacifically affirm that that wasn't a phoenix, as phoenixes canonically work in the opposite way, both in powers and behaviour. She is the women in the ship with the baby Credence/Aurelius. But according to FB2, he must’ve been around 25 in 1926. Also if he got the information from Irma, t her l And Leta's (brief) arc would make no sense if she wasn't the only wielder of the secret of the swap. Credence Barebone (allegedly born Aurelius Dumbledore; c. 19011) was an American wizard who lived during the 20th century. Part 1: Changing Canon or Did Grindelwald plan to kill Irma? 7)Also IMDB lists Linda Santiago as Credence's aunt. i haven't posted for too long fbcog hp jkr crimes of grindelald queen bohemian rhapsody. After Newton Scamander refused to assist the British Ministry of Magic, Grimmson was hired to travel to Paris in order to kill Credence Barebone. Personally, I am inclined to think he’s lying so he can use Credence as a weapon against Albus later on. He researched Dumbledores and Lestranges. requested TL;DR: when it comes to Aurelius Dumbledore there are three option. Albus, Aberforth, Ariana... Aurelius fits perfectly to this naming trend. Spoilers: The surprise in The Crimes of Grindelwald that could break canon (again) November 2, 2018. Maybe there were just 2 babies on the ship. 1)Everyone in the Dumbledore family we know has a name that starts with the letter 'A'. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 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